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Matter to them is when he turns on them. when he turns on ordinary americans and does something to them. i think there are a segment of americans who live inside that fox bubble who do not care about this. the rest of us uthere in the real world walking around have pretty much made up our mind this guy is bad news in every possible way, and so these things just don't change the needle. and maybe nancy pelosi is right, we're just going to have to resolve all of this in 2020 because it's never going to end. >> there's a seemingly criminal enterprise called mar-a-lago, a place where the president...

Delegation to china in may, he announced on "fox news sunday" that the united states was putting the trade war on hold, but soon after others in the delegation including china hawk peter know vara owe found an alternative audience with dobbs to criticize man uccellini in's message. then dobbs's criticism was picked up on fox and friends the following day by host brian kilmeade. before long and on the basis of those media messages, the president made an abrupt change in policy. >> well, this is huge governing problem. it's also a fascinating phenomenon. the other people in this fox bubble, of c...

Fax. >> you couldn't have been surprised. >> ifs wasn't, but he had this sheltered media apparatus where he didn't talk to younger viewers. that was a mistake, i thought. so it would have been great, had he given this first interview to someone at msnbc, or even "the view." to branch out a little bit and say, i can't just stick in this fox bubble i think would have been helpful. >> ben, one of the things he said yesterday, we got to reach out to more minorities. we've got to speak to more minorities. but then in the very next breath he basically says, the president, he had a lot of success wit...

You know, i think, as you said this, stuff happens all the time. it's been happening for three years. in a sense, it's dog bites man. it's nothing surprising. i think what's different in this case is hank williams jr. has this footprint in mainstream media, not just in the sort of the fox bubble where you can say obama is hitler, and he's stalin and he's, you know, doing all these terrible things. >> but i must say in fairness, just to be immediate on this, in fairness i'm not a big fan of "fox and friends" in the morning, i watch "morning joe." but i thought they were appalled. they looked li...

Because your cad is a genius doesn't mean you're not going to be a moron. you know, i think, as you said this, stuff happens all the time. it's been happening for three years. in a sense, it's dog bites man. it's nothing surprising. i think what's different in this case is hank williams jr. has this footprint in mainstream media, not just in the sort of the fox bubble where you can say obama is hitler, and he's stalin and he's, you know, doing all these terrible things. >> but i must say in fairness, just to be immediate on this, in fairness i'm not a big fan of "fox and friends" in the mornin...