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Rupert murdoch, testifying under oath by lawyers. when asked why he did not stop the lies about dominion, the lawsuit is about, said i could have, but i did not. in any other civil case, that would be an admission of liability that the defendant could not survive. but with that admission under oath, the only thing standing here between rupert murdoch and the billion dollar judgment against him in court, it's the first amendment. fox defense so far, it rests entirely on the first amendment journalistic principle that what donald trump was saying about the election was newsworthy, and fox had a ...

But murdoch himself is saying, no, they endorsed these lies. and elsewhere, you know, in private e-mails that dominion has obtained, for instance, murdoch is calling those lies, he says they're damaging to the country. he at one point referred to them as bs. so it's very clear that behind the scenes, fox executives, fox stars knew that these lies were not true, but they continued to peddle it to their viewers, and it seems, because of a financial incentive. >> yeah, they were concerned about their competitors who were in that moment being endorsed by trump, siphoning viewers away. you know, ol...

And even as fox executives and hosts and staffers asked that very same question and came to the conclusion that there was no evidence to back up claims like that and other claims of massive voter fraud. they put people who were making those claims on the air over and over and over again. and here is why. this is what rupert murdoch had to say about the pillow guy and mike lindell in his deposition, according to dominion, the man is on every night, pays us a lot of money. first you think it is comic and then you get bored and irritated. rupert confirmed that he could tell fox to stop running li...

Fire this guy, and suggested that it would be a good show of faith to the trump supporters. and so, that's really what's shocking here, is that the people who are lying are still in their positions, people like bill salal salmon, who seemingl wanted to deliver the news and tell the truth, they have been let go or reprimanded. >> yeah, it is really shocking. that's probably the best way to describe it, but also, really reveals, i think, what a lot of people see when they watch fox, as well. oliver darcy, thanks for all of that. and let's get some more on this from former u.s. attorney, harry ...

Article titled, why fox lied to its viewers, adam serwer writes, fox executives and personalities understand that their own network loses traction with its audience when it fails to tell the lies that the audience wishes to hear. joining us now is adam serwer, staff writer at the atlantic. he is the author of, the cruelty is the point, why trump's america endures. his latest is, why fox lied to its viewers. at the atlantic, thank you very much for joining us tonight. i don't know if you noticed, but i don't allow rupert murdoch's semantic infiltration to get into my references to fox. i never ...