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They're going to run their campaign the way they want. obviously, we would like all of them to show up here. and, again, this isn't so much me, although i will ask some questions. this is to face the voters of new hampshire or iowa or pennsylvania or wherever the town hall happens to be. and, you know, i do the think it's a mistake for anyone, any candidate -- republican, democrat, liberal, conservative -- to voluntarily cut themselves off from millions of potential voters. howard: since you raised elizabeth warren, as you said, she's raising money off of her decision not to do a fox town hall...

At fox last year also left the republican party. it could be joe scarborough is -- simply feels he doesn't want to be part of what is now donald trump's republican party. carley: you are right. who knows what's in his heart and mind. but you can make the argument it weakens the brand of their show. mika brzezinski plays a hard-core democrat and the fact that he's no longer associated with the party, that goes away. howie: let's show you the interview of the president with pat robertson. >> you have got to have a tax code for small businesses and healthcare. how far along are you. if you get he...

Audience who probably doesn't like the president either, it seems like a cheap way to get applause. howie: i can't imagine the msnbc boss are happy that joe scarborough made this announcement on another network. carley: it gave the stephen colbert show gave the show a two-month rating high. nbc execs isn't be too broken up about it. but it does prove he's loving this attention and feud he has with the president. howie: george will when he was at fox last year also left the

Jay carney is paid to say things that aren't so. it's the tip of the iceberg. if they're willing to put politics into a website, what will they put into your health care? >> that's daryl issa. he's become the republican's front man in an unending series of witch hunts. and of course fear mongering. yet very short on actual facts. we've seen it with benghazi, with fast and furious, with the irs, and now from fox last week. there was little reason to think we'd see anything different. issa continued his scare tactics. this week he tried frightening away people from the program. >> hackers in fac...

Think governor palenty was correct when he said that the president is being a little bit hypocritical here because as you reported on fox last week the president himself when he was senator voted against the debt sealing increase. bill: that was back in 2006. what the white house would argue is it is suicide not to raise the debt limit. are they right? >> reporter: there is going to be an increase in the debt sealing. we can't default on our debts, we can't not make our payments we have to make. the real question, the showdown is going to be when we increase that debt sealing whether it comes ...