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Scared. it's preposterous. the law recognizes attorney/client privilege. it doesn't recognize legislator/conspirator privilege. this doesn't seem like a good way to encourage compliance with future subpoenas. there's only one way that makes sense, which is if you're so divested to truth that you want to say no to every investigation. it's a silly threat. he can't cite any law that's being violated, yet he's threatening retaliation. it's medieval. nick, great to see you my friend to talk. we're grateful to have you. two years after that so-called perfect call, the disgraced ex president,

Call seriously. >> mm-hmm. >> a friend of mine is ron poe peel, maybe the best marketer of the last half century on television. this is marketing. introducing a concept we didn't know existed before and by sheer weight of insistence and repetition, making it a thing. >> mm-hmm. it's interesting, calling a phone call perfect, and that wasn't just a tick. when i first read that, i thought that's just the way he happened to put it when he was sitting there eating fun ons and typing one night, but he uses it over and over again. it's interesting, you usually call something perfect when you're rati...

The objections that a lot of us have to the appropriateness of that call. the details are just utterly ignored. they're not playing the same game that we are. they're not indulging in facts and reasoning. they're doing something else because they see themselves as having a higher purpose. they think there's a larger story and that history will pardon them. but the problem is that the larger story is clearly built on sand. >> what about when you look behind him at a rally and someone has handed the crowd "read the transcript" t-shirts. we can't. again, we would love to read the transcript. we w...

Aid to ukraine. van hollen believes trump may have violated the law by not telling congress. >> we've asked gao to take a look at this argument. i think to the extent that they agree, it will just be more evidence on top of the already mountains of evidence that this was far from a perfect call and a perfect action. >> tonight "the washington post" reports this. at least 37 republican senators are expected to vote against both articles of impeachment against president trump. the post adds that means it is mathematically impossible for trump to be removed from office assuming the 37 number hold...

Pleasure to say back with us again is john mcwhorter, our public linguist often pushed into the position of trump explainer, for which he comes armed with a ph.d. in linguistics from stanford. contributor at the atlantic, the host of lexicon valley podcast and the author of over a dozen books in his spare time. thank you so much. when you're not here, we're thinking about what we're going to ask you on your next appearance. >> that's wonderful to hear. >> as my mom would say, that beats a poke in the eye with a sharp stick, which you should do a show on that, please. >> i will. >> phraseology....