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Further provide to you information related to that. but my understanding is that this committee has access to the documents that we would have provided to the bureau. >> all right. last question because i'm out of time. we can use the word evidence. we both know what the other one is talking about. how did you test, probe, examine, cross examine, otherwise test the reliabity or believability, credibility of that evidence you uncovered? >> i made sure that the components within cia that have responsibility for counterintelligence, cyber and russia were actively working to understand as much as ...

>> i encountered and am aware of information and intelligence that revealed contacts and interactions between russian officials and u.s. persons involved in the trump campaign. that i was concerned about because of known russian efforts to suborn such individuals, and it raised questions in my mind, again, whether or not the russians were able to gain the cooperation of those individuals. i don't know whether or not such collusion -- that's your term -- such collusion existed. i don't know. but i know that there was a sufficient basis of information and intelligence that required furtr investi...

Needs to be handled the right way and it needs to make sure that it is not exposed. he didn't do that, again, if the press charges are accurate. secondly, before sharing any classified intelligence with foreign partners, it needs to go back to the originating agency to make sure that the language in it is not even just providing the substance going to reveal sources and methods and compromise the future collection capability. so it appears as though, at least from press reports, that neither did it go in the proper channels, nor did the originating agency had the opportunity to clear language ...

The language that was being used. but it would have been that internal interagency process that then resulted in the intelligence community assessment. that is the traditional way that these assessments are drafted, are coordinated, and are published. >> without even getting into the final conclusion, if there were other evidence though that indicated contrary, should that have been listed or not? >> you're dealing with a lot of information when you put together an intelligence assessment. it comes down to a distillation process. and as you know, there were two products that were produced -- a...

Trump campaign and russian state actors? >> as i said, mr. gowdy, i don't do evidence. and we were uncovering information and intelligence about interactions and contacts between u.s. persons and the russians, and as we came upon that, we would share it with the bureau. >> i appreciate that you don't do evidence, director brennan. unfortunately, that's what i do. that's what i use. i use the word evidence. the good news for me is lots of my colleagues on the other side of the aisle use the word evidence, too. one of my colleagues said there is more than circumstantial evidence of collusion bet...