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Afghanistan? why is the that that's an impossibility in the country, that that many people can die, or in a terrorist attack, but it's okay that they die from a failing medical system? i don't know why they framed the debate the way they did, or rather, that they didn't. they should have framed it in a moral sense like that and they should have framed it for people who are more selfish thinking, that this is a -- that you are going to go broke. democrats need to use fear the way the republicans use fear. and it's true. i mean, health care costs keep going up. they should have scared the americ...

To put his own political future on the line and really short term. he doesn't get health care. this doesn't happen. his agenda is stalled. he's paralyzed for a certain amount of time. i think sometimes people overdo it in washington, it's not the end of his presidency. and it could make it harder to do energy, harder to do reform. i think going publicly like this, he will be out in missouri on wednesday. that's a little bit of politics, but doing health care. it's a way to show them on capitol hill that he's willing to put himself on the line. >> chuck, your point is well taken. let me ask you...

Summer, august. and august 20111, getting all of the troops out of there. the election, period, whether there is going to be a surge in sectarian violence, given the power of the sunnis which turned out in high numbers. what does that mean for our u.s. troops there? that's a question for ordinero, coming up. >> the baker commission, this is a disaster, falling apart. if you look at today, it does look like a real success from that point certainly. >> it shows some risk in terms of what potentially could go wrong. there's also a possible engagement with iran if things sort of percolating there....

Democratic leaders see a financial regulation as a chance for spring tooichl renewal. their goal is senate passage financial regulation gives democrats a rare opportunity to tap the tea party populism that republicans have exploded on health care. that may be a good point it may be an opportunity to give them positive developments in every narrative. >> look if they can do that, here too, if they can get the health care bill passed and if they can get financial regulation passed which i also think they will, pretty soon you have the possibility for a much different narrative than, oh, my gosh,...

>> the impact on the united states, and data, 50,000 troops will be left as peacekeeping forces. and richard engel said it would take something catastrophic for that not to happen. >> framing it as a frivictory io important to that end. regardless of specifics on the ground there, is enough information that they feel comfortable saying that it went well, notwithstanding those injuries and some of that difficulty with violence that did come up. but by saying these things about it, it really helps the president to go forward. >> having said that, if you removed some of the 96,000 over the next y...