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Paul manafort is a good kags study for this. why has his lawyers taken such great risks in his case throughout this entire process if they didn't think the president wasn't going to help him out? it doesn't mock any unless you go to the obvious explanation, which is he was accepting a pardon. >> and thank you for this back channel, which sounds sketchy too, put in writing. >> i don't know what you're being so spugss about though. rudy jewel yawn ea explains it was a reference to the garth brooks song "friends in low places. >> cost eloo said that i thunk. he was trueing to keep a suicidal cohe...

It doesn't mock any unless you go to the obvious explanation, which is he was accepting a pardon. >> and thank you for this back channel, which sounds sketchy too, put in writing. >> i don't know what you're being so spugss about though. rudy jewel yawn ea explains it was a reference to the garth brooks song "friends in low places. >> cost eloo said that i thunk. he was trueing to keep a suicidal cohen with his chin up. >> it's circumstantial evidence of the crime and just to explain what's sododgy about this dangling idea. the president has this power to provide pardons but it's a political c...

Realtime the extent of that information. you can't put the genie back in the bottle. you can't put the toothpaste back in the tube once that's out there. so in some ways they've created some protection for themselves. and i think the final thing we should keep in mind is knees people who have been enabling trump, whether it is rudy giuliani, whether it's people in the white house who think it's fine to lie for this guy, it's fine to lie to the public, you can do whatever you want because your only client, your only responsibility is to trump, those people are in a heck of a lot of trouble, bec...

So, we are getting to know in realtime the extent of that information. you can't put the genie back in the bottle. you can't put the toothpaste back in the tube once that's out there. so, in some ways, they've created some protection for themselves. and i think the final thing we should keep in mind is these people who have been enabling trump, whether it's rudy giuliani, whether it's people in the white house who think it's fine to lie for this guy, it's fine to lie to the public, you can do whatever you want because your only client, your only responsibility is to trump -- those people are i...

Your only client, your only responsibility is to trump, those people are in a heck of a lot of trouble, because those people may now be involved in actions which cute obstruction of justice. the fraud exception will make it impossible for lawyers to hide behind the attorney/client privilege. and this should be a warning to people who work in government and to lawyers that you must conduct yourself within the confines of the law. >> right. that you have ethical and legal obligations. >> exactly. >> i want to do a lightning round with my large mueller friday brady bunch panel here. yes or no, li...