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Legitimate trouble here. we know he's under investigation by the southern district of new york. the office that rudy giuliani hichls used to lead in the '80s. i worked at a couple decades later. as an alum of that office, it is jarring to think the former u.s. attorney is under investigation. the indictment last week is a serious case. they're charged with funneling hundreds of thousands of dollars of foreign money into the election system through a shell company. rudy giuliani has close keks to these two guys. they were his point people in ukraine. they paid him. the best detail is the compan...

With the russians hacking the dnc. stealing thousands of documents and giving them to wikileaks part of an operation to disrupt the election is ludicrous. >> what's your final thought? >> i want to represent michael. when he gets in trouble. all you need to know is ukraine and giuliani the company that paid him used to be called fraud guarantee. rethink that branding.

>> we're running out of time, michael. >> -- the russians hacking the dnc, steeling thousands of documents and giving them to the wikileaks part of an operation to disrupt the election is ludicrous. >> what's your final thought? >> i want to represent michael. when he gets in trouble. all you need to know is ukraine and giuliani the company that paid him used to be called fraud guarantee. rethink that branding. >> i appreciate it. we'll be back. in the human brain, billions of neurons play in harmony.

Hunter biden's role with the ukranian gas company. house democrats are seeking documents about whether rick perry pushed ukraine to put trump friendly americans on the board of the state owned gas and oil company in crew yan. in the t-- ukranian crow anies are accused of a scheme to inkpluns u.s. politics with illegal campaign contributions mplts they also alleged lay worked to get the ambassador to ukraine fired because she wouldn't play ball and helped giuliani to help dig for dirt on the bidens. one of them owns a company called fraud guarantee that rudy giuliani worked for and the other ow...

Legal exposure does giuliani have at this moment? >> the essence of this indictment we saw yesterday is these two guys were funneling hundreds of thousands of dollars illegally from foreign nationals into american politics. rudy was closely intertwined with these guys. they were his contacts in ukraine. they paid him through this shell company, fraud guarantee, might want to rethink that name, but rudy needs to pea concerned. especially if one of these guys flips. if one of them flip, then look out. >> thank you so muff. julie, michael, thanks so much. coming up for us, sounding the alarm. a...