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Carried out attacks. after the arab spring they almost immediately started going after coptic christians. this was an attack on christian churches. 85 people were destroyed. so we have to speak out and make eight vital part of the international discussion, not just a footnote at the end. it should be a major up front issue because we are talking about an entire country. martha: it has passed to the point which is a start in the house. if people aren't in fave of it they should let their senators know. we'll continue to put a lot of emphasis on this story that need to be told as well. to see th...

It less appetizing. so it is a mess. bill: on that point the incentive for a young person to buy drops off considerably. >> sure, sure. bill: even just yesterday bill clinton in new york says, this law only survives if young people buy into it. based on this reporting here that the price will be higher, the incentive, you would assume, will be lower. to sign up. >> we, you know, and you also think, bill, of the delays. what is happening with all the key delays. certain companies and sectors that are you know, getting passes and exemptions and delays when they have to kick in. but what's import...

Firm and zuhdi jasser, of the american islamic forum for democracy. gentlemen, thank you very much for being here today. you know, i guess that's the question. earlier in the show today we outlined the 10 countries in which christians have been targeted and killed. more than 100 churches have been burned and ruined in the course of this terrorism that exists. mike, let me start with you. if we don't call it what it is, and we don't recognize from whence it comes, can we ever hope to deal with it? >> not in as effective a manner as we should. you know you have to be able to understand the natur...

Into a friday or saturday. martha: what people who are supportive of you would ask at home when it goes back to the republicans in the house, is it possible that they might get a delay on the personal mandate in this bill? is that still a possibility? >> well, i'm not certain but you know, you have to look a the fact that it's a lot more that, then the individual mandate that is at stake. a delay in the individual mandate isn't going to fix the underlying problem for the overwhelming majority of americans. martha: a lot people feel that is all you can get at this point and that might be a big ...

That is what is evidencing itself. bill: on that point we're now learning about some prices for the health care exchanges, from "the wall street journal." it says young, healthy buyers, will likely pay more than they do at the moment. while older, sicker consumers should get a break. what more is in that pricing? >> well could be substantial. i mean for younger people now it could probably average 15, 20% more than they're paying now. keep in mind it does nothing to erase the equation, young people by and large not paying for health insurance that is the age feel indestructible. nothing will h...