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Vice president of the united states. if anything, there are cynical about this town. how do you explain that one? >> mo: i have the same problem with joe lieberman that i had when john quarantine was being floated. given where we are right now and the heightened sensitivity as we have to the role of the fbi, having someone who was not political, i don't care what party, democrat, republican, independent, having someone who is not a politician, having someone who was a professional law enforcement official without political associations or baggage was the more prudent way to go. >> sandra: let'...

And mike rogers. any particular name you want to throw out there? >> meghan: i love fred townsend. i like the idea of having a woman had the fbi. maybe it's too political for democrats, but it is a really sad day for me when people like chuck schumer and al franken are so deeply politicizing this. joe lieberman helped cofound -- he doesn't consider himself a democrat or republican anymore. he is of sound moral character. it was so surprising to me how vilified he became. i don't know you, but please don't sit here and act like elizabeth warren or bernie sanders had been nominated, you wouldn't...

Trump personally. trump's lawyer basically has lieberman on the payroll. to me, that's far more of an issue. i would like to think joe lieberman could rise above that. the problem is perception. it's the perception of having a conflict. the democrats aren't pinning him on that. >> mo: democrats have talked about that. i do think that is a serious point. democrats didn't do that. >> sandra: when you have a problem with andrew mccabe? >> mo: i'm not going to judge the actual career people. >> sandra: mike rogers, fred townsend. >> meghan: is fred townsend automatically not allowed? it's the hypo...

Thompson, former assistant attorney general alice fisher who served under george w. bush and paula bates, he is the career fbi agent in the mix, currently assistant director for cybersecurity divisions at the bureau. if there's a second bucket of potential nominees, we'll call them congressional picks. in this case, mike rogers former house intelligence committee chairman, a former fbi agent and republican. congressman trey gaudi a former prosecutor who led the probe into the 2012 benghazi care terrorist attacks, also a key member of the russia probe and senate majority whip john cornyn of tex...

Deputy attorney general ray thompson, former assistant attorney general alice fisher who served under george w. bush and paula bates, he is the career fbi agent in the mix, currently assistant director for cybersecurity divisions at the bureau. if there's a second bucket of potential nominees, we'll call them congressional picks. in this case, mike rogers former house intelligence committee chairman, a former fbi agent and republican. congressman trey gaudi a former prosecutor who led the probe into the 2012 benghazi care terrorist attacks, also a key member of the russia probe and senate majo...