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Time, many people think he's been pulling strings, certainly with the military. do you believe what we have heard during the program that he's part of some coup d'etat by the military here? >> i know from many egyptians, there's very little trust, he's very closely associated with the regime and all of the ugly things going on with that particular apparatus. and one of the main challenges that egypt faces today is not only economic recovery, but the whole issue of dismantling security operators that has terrorized people. >> a great day for egypt? >> an amazing day, a momentous day, a day for ...

The way in way people came together, young people and old people came together. there are huge problems ahead, but by the way, i think omar suleiman is clearly a transitional figure and if this new set of authorities which is more or less the military doesn't move quickly to deal with the issues of freedom, to deal with the issues of political prisoners, to give people time to form parties but makes it clear that there's going to be elections. i think the momentum for change the large. >> when you compare that's what happened here to what pd in iraq, you don't think with the benefit of hindsig...

European leaders. >> we believe it must be a government that starts to put in place the building blocks of a truly open, free and democratic society. of course, what happened today should only be the first step. those who now run egypt have a duty to reflect the wishes of the egyptian people. >> french president gave his support.

The other parties, they just cannot do it themselves and without the military, i think almost definitely there would be chaos in egypt for the long-term. >> if you were still a cia operative, what do you think the top brass at the cia would be most concerned about from what they're witnessing tonight? >> i think what they should be concerned about if the army holds together. i see no reason that it shouldn't. but anything that would push egypt to a civil war should concern the cia. >> and in terms of the peace process, in particular the peace treaty between israel and egypt, but on a wider lev...

And put it this way, omar suleiman has been in charge of the equivalent of the cia for egypt since 1993 and apparently the partnership continues on in terms of a personal relationship between suleiman and the u.s., he's very tight with the cia, and also he's been on the phone an awful lot with vice president biden recently. >> who's in charge here do you think? is it the military? is it suleiman? is he in charge of the military or are they in charge of him? >> there's a lot to still be sorted out. but the people who i ask who know more than i do about all these things, suggests that the balanc...