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Bit more of this interview with the present, where he talks about the relationship with the russian with him, let's play a little bit of that and then get your reaction. >> i think we got along very well, and that is not a bad thing. you know, people set out, they shouldn't get along, well who are the people who are saying that? i think we get along very, very well. he is a tremendously powerful nuclear power, and so are we, it doesn't make sense to have some kind of a relationship. >> shannon: and we have to remember that this is a former kgb officer, many times in the past, he acts in ways t...

Fried, one of the things that is hard to figure out about macron is that he doesn't have a political footprint, he liked it trump in the sense that he was in the private sector, he was a late driver to politics, learning the ropes and his predecessors in restoration, and now finds himself is really the unexpected leader of a country, looking for a national identity new direction, napoleon was an authoritarian dictator, but what he does represent in the hearts and minds of french people is when france was powerful, when france was not a weak power in western europe. >> shannon: we talked about ...