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>> bobby, as we look at this part of the country, we talked when this earlier this morning. not necessarily where you would find al-baghdadi. this is not, if you will, friendly territory. >> no, not at all. this is actually about as unfriendly a piece of territory that you could get for al-baghdadi. it is a part of syria where other jihadi groups, groups more closely associated with al qaeda, are present. and some of those groups have a blood feud if you like against isis. some of those groups have been seeking out and murdering isis soldiers, fighters, and there is also some indication that t...

>> exactly. friendly territory versus not. and you were saying earlier speaking with some of your source in turkey, and have you talked with them since? >> no, i have not spoken with them, but all morning they reached out to say that they wanted some credit, they wanted to say that they were inform i of the operation, which is not the same thing as being involved, but putting out the piece of intelligence that to their unless of understandiders had moved in to this area 48 hours ago. >> and nbc as not independently confirmed that. and michael, as a subject matter expert on isis, what was the s...

Saw in cities like been ghazi. further eastward here. they -- you have to keep in mind they are approaching the city of sirt which has a lot of army bases and air force bases around it. a strong hold for moammar gadhafi. his hometown, so until now, they have really been fighting their way through what is, in fact, friendly territory. once they get to sirt, it's a whole different situation potentially a lot of hostile fire could come from there. randi. >> ben wedeman for us in libya this morning. thank you. he feels the need to apologize for using the "h" word to criticize his fellow ohio law...