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The united states, and you take a look at the states and cities that are taxing people highly like detroit, and you see what eventually happens to them. >> pat, why don't we put a check box on the tax return, and everybody that wants to pay more can pay more? i'm all in favor of free choice. >> you've got a very good point. i really believe that people ought to say, look -- have a surtax for some of the programs our liberal friends support, and some can say, look, this is optional. you can choose to pay or not to pay, and check it off and see which ones do it. every time they've had something ...

Like detroit, and you see what eventually happens to them. >> pat, why don't we put a check box on the tax return, and everybody that wants to pay more can pay more? i'm all in favor of free choice. >> you've got a very good point. i really believe that people ought to say, look -- have a surtax for some of the programs our liberal friends support, and some can say, look, this is optional. you can choose to pay or not to pay, and check it off and see which ones do it. every time they've had something like that, about 1% of the folks check it off and pay extra. >> is that fair, ebony? >> i don'...