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And to put it into context the president usually isn't a huge fan of a policy process or a well laid out decision making. so what happens on a lot of these issues in the white house is the president says he wants something done. lawyers or staffers try to slow walk him or make him follow a process and ultimately he interjects and does what he wants. and if we see him revoking more security clearances it'll follow that ad hoc process in the days to come. >> and just because i'm running to a break, i want to read this from tonight's "the washington post." this is on the notion of pulling clearan...

Op-ed, it doesn't mean the same thing. >> richard painter, i think you and i could sooner fly to the moon this evening than count on half or a majority of this president's cabinet to opt to invoke the 25th amendment. it is no easy feat. for a lot of people further, there has been this frog boiling experiment. this has happened in slow motion. david frum published a piece tonight says in the headline, ""this is a constitutional crisis." when you read something like that, it gets your attention. there is a sense of moment. but for a lot of folks that sense of moment is not here. so what do you d...

Invoke the 25th amendment. it is no easy feat. for a lot of people further, there has been this frog boiling experiment. this has happened in slow motion. david frum published a piece tonight says in the headline, ""this is a constitutional crisis." when you read something like that, it gets your attention. there is a sense of moment. but for a lot of folks that sense of moment is not here. so what do you do? >> well, this is a constitutional crisis and it's not about being a conservative, as is the author of this piece in "the new york times," or a liberal or a moderate such as myself. this i...

The emergency managers, the governor and all the senators and congressmen, they were saying get off the coast, get off the beaches because we can't save you from the storm surge. there's a saying that says, you run from the storm surge, you shelter from the winds. and most times unless you're dealing with a category 4 or 5, you can stay on the coast from the winds about this being a 4, we didn't know if it would go right inland or notp about even with the winds, they were saying get out. even when we hear about the storm surge we talk about it often is it like a tsunami what's it kind of like ...