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Seen as a sort of symbol of one approach to democratic general election politics which is don't necessarily try to be the crossover appeal candidate. don't go to the center, do everything you can instead to maximize democratic turnout. get the democratic base excited and they'll turn out and that's how you can win. did we actually see an absolute numbers, did we see a kind of a spike in democratic turnout in a way that sort of justified that strategy? >> well, i can tell you he was certainly the admiral ferret gut candidate, damn the torpedos. it caught on. when i would go around and talk to v...

Through present day. pete: the uss indianapolis had just delivered the bomb used to end world war ii on the way back, it gets -- two japanese torpedos and go down with the ship. 900 go into the water. talk to us a little bit about what happened there. >> what happened next was five nights and four days of hell. only about 30 men had rafts. and the remaining only were having life jackets clinging to each other. many died of exposure, of wounds, dehydration. some of them started drinking salt water which is a terrible way to die. and in the end only 316 survived. of course, there is the shark st...

They cannot accept that donald trump won the presidency in november 16. i try to say to folks, look, i ought to be more bitter than you, i was one of the guys that put my life on the line for this. but i tell everybody, donald trump was not my first choice for president. i was my first choice for president. part of what i admire is that there is this sort of bull in the china shop torpedos, full speed ahead torpedos be damned, let's go, i like that. i like that we have a president who has instincts and follows them and he's not dissuaded by people who are always putting strings on him and tell...

They cannot accept that donald trump won the presidency in november 16. i try to say to folks, look, i ought to be more bitter than you, i was one of the guys that put my life on the line for this. but i tell everybody, donald trump was not my first choice for president. i was my first choice for president. part of what i admire is that there is this sort of bull in the china shop torpedos, full speed ahead torpedos be damned, let's go, i like that. i like that we have a president who has instincts and follows them and he's not dissuaded by people who are always putting strings on him and tell...

Ever since he started with the regime. it's believed he began as a border guard at the dmz. he's been a body guard for kim jung il and a liaison officer with the u.n. and member of the team that held break-through negotiations with south korea in the 90s. so he's well-versed when it comes to sitting around the negotiating table. he's now a four-star general. he's head of the main north korean intelligence service and he was head of the rgb from 2009. in that time, he's believed to be responsible for the 2010 torpedos of the south korean naval vessel in which 46 sailors are killed and responsib...