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To inject enough cooling water into the reactor to prevent damage to the fuel. it may be the only option they have at this point. but certainly -- >> sorry to interrupt you, but what does this tell you they are widening the evacuation area of 12 miles. does that say anything to you about the perhaps futile effort to try to contain the fumes that may have esscacaped from this building, that the use of this sea water, might it be their last ditch effort, and as a precaution they're asking a greater volume of people in which to evacuate? >> well, i think all the signs are consistent with the fact...

But it's clear that they've been unable to inject enough cooling water into the reactor to prevent damage to the fuel. it may be the only option they have at this point. >> what does this tell you -- sorry to interrupt but what does it tell you they're widening the evacuation area of 12 miles? does that say anything to you about the perhaps futile effort to try to contain the fumes that may have escaped from this building, that the use of this seawater, might it be their last-ditch effort and as a precaution they're asking a greater volume of people in which to evacuate? >> i think all the sig...

Great distances. that means we couldn't predict health effects in the area of the nuclear plant unless we knew the exact situation on the ground and the meteorlogical situation. >> right. >> we don't know about the intensity of this or the volume. we had a very large amount of core damage and explosion in the reactor which propelled a huge amount of the radioactive inventory outside of the reactor. in this case, in japan, we have very little hard information coming from the plant itself. we don't know the extent of fuel damage. >> we will continue to watch it. i'm sure you will as well. we app...

>> that's the season isotopes? >> we have the plant explosion in the upper compartment of the reactor building which may have been due to hydrogen which also would have been a signal there was fuel damage. so i think it's clear there's fuel damage and -- unless it's contained in a short period of time it could get far worse. >> these reactors are light reactors, some analysts have made the comment light water reactors are unlikely to explode which minimizes the danger here. do you agree? >> well, it's a fallacy to say that light water reactor cannot have an event in which there's a large radio...