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Left together, whether it's, you know, to another country or just out of state or out of the community, talk to me about what the mom is now facing? she might think she's doing the right thing by protecting her son, but now she's potentially in trouble. >> well, if she has somehow constructed the idea that she's helping ethan in this fugitive status, she needs serious help. the fact is, i'm sure she knows exactly what she was doing. i think she was probably fearful her kid was in trouble, because of the video. and she does the absolute worst thing, fredricka. she takes off with the kid. and sh...

>> well there's a number of things going on here. number one, i think you're right. the sophistication of the break. know that right now as you and i are talking, there are about 130, 135 escapees from federal and state prisons all over the united states that are in a fugitive status. but i think this story is so gripping, number one, because of the background of these two, the terrible crimes they committed, and number two, their ability to cut their way out of what has been to that date an escape-proof prison. so i think all of those facts come crashing together. you and i and i think others...

He didn't report two or three shots. just have one shot. those are very very devastating high velocity rounds. i'm not surprised he's dead. but the key to the highway, the gun, trying to move there. remember, chris, their diet over these 20 days is foraging through cabins and eating berries. you're really moving through the woods. thing about when you go out in a day in the woods and camping, you need a lot of fat, food and in your everyday work. imagine in that fugitive status. they weren't getting enough nutrition, energy to keep going. they were getting desperate. they wanted to do somethin...

Serving a life sentence when she escaped from prison in 1979 and ended up in cuba where fidel castro granted her asylum. her fugitive status even landing her on the fbi's most wanted terror list. okay, harris, i brought joanne's name up yesterday, she should be part of this deal, i think. the administration should get her back and have her serve her time along with the other criminals that are being held in cuba. >> you know what's interesting about her, i think a lot of people just don't have her on their radar, but did you know that she was the first woman the fbi ever put on the most wanted...

Some political concession. when and if that happens, his life -- if you think it's stressful now, it will just go further and further down the drain. >> what do you think, what lengths is snowden going to right now to stay out of sight? >> probably i think that all of his movements and activity are controlled now by the chinese government. he can no more hide in china than my wife's french poodle. i don't think he can go into complete fugitive status in china and hide. the government there will have complete control over him. >> i want to know this, and i followed your story, and what drove yo...