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>> can i ask you something? john mccain is calling for -- rick santorum and i were talking about this before you joined us, he's calling for a regular order bipartisan approach. >> yeah. >> is that realistic at this point? >> of course it's realistic. this is an artificial deadline. can you imagine bringing up a bill like this, don, and rick, and you've got 90 seconds to two minutes to debate it? this is all baloney. there is no rush. when the democrats did the affordable care act, republicans said we were being bipartisan. but we -- it took us months and months to do that bill. so what john m...

>> and the way to do that is to get the money closer to the people, allow innovation, quit doing this one size fits all everybody -- >> but with all due respect, senator work your situation be worse, wouldn't you actually pay more if you didn't have the affordable care act, if you weren't on that plan? couldn't you be paying more money than the $30,000 you're paying now? >> let me just say this. i believe that we should have pre-existing condition coverage, and the graham-cassidy bill actually is better -- let me just say this one more time. is better -- >> no. >> -- at pre-existing conditions...

Or my family. we have addressed that issue. and when you play back senator santorum's words, which he's good at presenting -- >> i want him to be able to respond. >> there's no emotion in it. there's no talking about our families. the fact of the matter is, obamacare, or the affordable care act, either way you call it, it's being subverted because this president doesn't like it, and he has cut out all the funds to advertise the exchanges. but we still are signing people up. and we can fix it. last point i'll make. let's bring back bipartisanship. lemar alexander, patty murray, i just talked to...

He's fired. >> president trump also blasting senator john mccain tonight for announcing he'd vote no on the gop's health care bill. i want to talk about it with cnn's senior political commentator and former u.s. senator rick santorum, one of the architects of the graham-cassidy bill. and also barbara boxer. she joins us now. i can see we're getting her shot set up there. so senator santorum, i'm going to start with you. this afternoon john mccain announced he cannot in good conscience, he said, those are his words, vote for the graham-cassidy proposal to repeal and replace obamacare. you worke...

And lemar. lemar alexander said in a lunch i happened to be in attendance, that there was no bipartisanship going on. patty murray actually wouldn't negotiate any changes to obamacare. there wasn't anything substantive that could be passed in the united states senate. the democratic demand was just give us the money and you're stuck with the way if is right now. that's the bipartisanship that -- >> no. >> i'm just telling you what lemar alexander said. number two, i love this idea that somehow or another, if you're out there advocating for a system that you believe better treats the people of ...