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Joining us now is the former u.s. attorney of michigan who has been sitting in the courtroom every day watching the proceedings. great to see you. thanks for being here. >> it's been a fun adventure. >> do you have any insight into how this is going to wrap up and how this secretary of the army small bank in chicago stuff might fit into it? >> well, it is part of the bank fraud scheme in the indictment there is kind of two big categories of charges here. one is the tax fraud where he underreported his income. the other is all of these bank frauds. it's really been quite dry, very methodically ...

They do weird things to people in europe. >> who did the pilot episode and said this sounds -- >> how many waivers had to be signed for that. >> i really would do this. this sounds like a lot of fun. >> the thing is that you have this strange guy saying it sounds fun but the pretty girl looked terrified. >> the only escape games i play is feigning illness on a date to get out. >> that would be great if part of the fun would be having to significant out how to get out with safe wards. safe words are a cop-out. >> either you want to be choked or you don't. there are no safe words here. >> it's l...

Butchered. >> who did the pilot episode and said yeah -- >> how many waivers had to be signed for that. >> i really would do this. >> you have the strange guy saying it is fun. but the pretty girl is looking terrified. >> the only time i fein illness is on a date and i want to get out. >> it would be great if part of the fun is the safe word are there are no safe words after they told you there was one and you have to figure out how to get out. you can't have safe words. safe words are capouts and that's what i tell my lovers. >> you want to be choked or you don't want to be choked. there is n...