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Large number where there's been an effort under the national emergency's act for the president to operate. that does happen and the question here is do we have a critical nexus for car tells that are engaged in reaching up into our communities and moving fentanyl across the border endaith dangering american citizens. does the president able to do it? i think all members of congress regardless of party ought do that. i think we ought to be careful about it but we ought to be cognizant that we do have an emergency situation at the board he and we ought do our job and i'm embarrassed because cong...

Diplomacy, now it's social media whining, the other way do it and effective and the way i used most often was control over reprogramming dollars. so if congress gives up this ability to control that, they will lose an important oversight function. and i'm a big believer in that separate but equal branch of government. not every administration gets it right. republican or democrat. this is a huge federal government. it needs a functioning congress. i argue that they ought to be as angry as anything about the process here. there's another bite at this apple the president will get in the fall and...

That you can keep the government open, you have to basically be on my side on the national emergency. and so this -- this 180 degree whipsaw that you saw that the majority leader engaged in yesterday was really quite remarkable. and i think it speaks more to the current relationship between the president and the majority leader of the senate. >> up until very recently, about a month ago you were a moderate democrat in congress. and it seems like the democratic party has shifted just in that short time its identity a bit. i'm wondering how yore cot gore rise the democratic party in congress tod...

That. it's a profound issue of american governance, who controls the purse? who decides how money should be spent? if there was a republican party instead of just a trump party, this would be an issue they would be interested in. but it is no longer a republican party and so they are going to fall in line. mitch mcconnell first in line and we'll see what the courts do. >> mike rogers, explain that. explain how republicans very recently used to go ballistic about what they perceived as executive overreach and how they could be on board with this today. >> i can't explain it candidly, and i was ...

For him to be so cavalier about it, again it goes to underline what i talked about at the beginning of the show, the selective outrage from trump and from his supporters, and from republicans in congress as well. you know, why not be consistent. so if you're not consistent on this, you're not credible about your criticism of hillary using the e-mails. that's how it works. >> is this going to be a big issue on capitol hill? how do you think -- are these rocks that will be overturned? >> sure. i guess it depends. you wanted to see which rocks they're willing to overturn. i imagine tax returns is...