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Number of these haitian migrants if not almost all of them are not fleeing haiti because of what happened this year with the political violence and the earthquake and more. many of them have been living in south america as you note in chile and brazil for a decade or more since the 2010 earthquake. do you think as a principle that until haiti is up and running as a functioning government and society the u.s. has an obligation to take in any haitian migrant who comes here? >> i agree. i agree. i'm calling out to the international community and to the faith community that if you want to sponsor ...

In the last hour democratic congresswoman fredricka wilson of florida told me she is, quote, pissed. >> there is no need to deport haitians to haiti. that is inhumane. they cannot accept that. they have no functioning government. no senate. no parliament. no president. and the prime minister is being investigated for murdering the president. so the government is in tatters. why would you deport people back to a country that is just trying as hard as they can to stay afloat and take care of the people that are there? >> now cnn's melissa bell is speaking one-on-one with some of the desperate ha...

Because everybody has their say, we come together, and we get it done. >> let's go to cnn congressional correspondent lauren fox. divides are threatening biden's agenda here, threatening a functioning government as well. >> reporter: i think the stalemates are intensifying on capitol hill. and there are two different factions who are fighting over different issues here. you have republicans and democrats who are really at an impasse on what to do about the debt ceiling. as you noted, last night in the house of representatives, there was a bill to fund the government. that bill also included an...

Are going to show up. you take that and combine with the intelligence that you have about things that you're hearing, publicity going out, other notable people who might be kind of trying to attract attention to this. and they have to basically guess. in this case, the stakes are so high because this group, the last time they rallied we had a riot and an insurrection and tried to overturn our functioning government. so, they've got to really ere on the side of the caution here which i think is the preparations we're seeing. but honestly if this fizzles out and turns out to be a very low-attend...

Without the afghan military or a functioning government, would that have been enough to retake kabul to secure the passage of everyone to the airport? >> i really defer to my colleagues at the pentagon, but i can safely say it would have taken a substantial number of forces to try to retake the city or establish a much broader perimeter and of course, if that was ultimately opposed by the taliban, in a sense, it would have defeated the purpose because anyone outside that perimeter would not have been allowed to get through it to come to the airport. among other things. >> right. so once the af...