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Public/private partnerships, apprenticeship models, which we have a beautiful model that works and brings our next generation of leaders. i do think there is a lot we can do through re-looking at funding programs. we talked earlier about consolidating the many programs that are out there. we're all trying to make our individual impact. we can make a huge impact together. >> sure. i know you work very hard on it, and you have made progress. charter schools are another thing that people are talking about a lot. some of the charter schools of new york have been amazing. they've done incredibly we...

In february 2017. >> the problem is picking one population with another and that is not the way we should be doing this. we should be funding programs for every one. what you missed on the sheet is the recidivism programs cut 40%, 22% depending where it is. we save $4 or $5 and it doesn't add up and not counting the savings, taxes being paid now that people have jobs and savings for people returning to prison. abby: you didn't answer the question, apologize for interrupting you. in terms of people that need jobs we have homeless veterans on the streets, college graduates who cannot get jobs. w...

Was numb and she had to hurry up and get the kids out of the house because the generator had been producing carbon monoxide. things like that are what families in baltimore are struggling with every day. >> and what they're struggling with that's not news. it's part of what we've been shining a light on since we've been in baltimore. i was walking around santown a couple mornings last week talking to the young people. to me that's the most important story. i talked to members of congress and there are big, sort of lofty ideas of change. you live it. give me a specific example of something that...

Powerful personal story you just told here but also just in terms of your ideology and how you believe in limited government and that you believe that as a republican and as a small government conservative, that that this isn't the realm for government to be imposing itself between women and health care providers. i wonder if your colleagues in private are more sympathetic to that position than they might appear to be in public. i know that the politics around this issue in texas are really strict. i'm sure you've paid somewhat of a political price from taking this stand. do you feel away from...

Coming from. have democrats or liberals on the other side been quick enough to respond to these kinds of infiltrations? because you do have the koch brothers rapidly expanding their influence. what has been the response? has it been adequate? >> i think the response has been very reactionary on the part of democrats and progressives in terms of responding to these types of programs. ironically, if the koch brothers were actually teaching entrepreneurship, i'm an entrepreneur. if that program was actually about that, it could benefit many disadvantaged communities, in particular the african-ame...