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Collected by the clinton campaign. the sanders campaign says it fired one staffer today. steve kornacki spoke to the staffer who was fired explaining the motive behind his actions. >> we did establish proof that there was a problem so that we understood what that problem was and we could report that up the chain. it did take us some time to figure out. >> the problem besides the firewall being down, what are you able to establish by going into her voter file? if you went into her voter files and searched them and copied information from them, basically sounds like you are committing the misdee...

Sabotage. can you explain? >> this is just an extraordinary episode. all of the fighting is on the republican side so far, but this is an unusual and a very important thing going on here. we have to back up a little bit. you may wonder why they would have had had access to the clinton campaign. the democratic party has a unified list. think of it like a phonebook. all the volunteers out there, the campaign staffers when they are knocking on doors, they are inputting new information into this phonebook. all the campaigns pay for access to this so they can all use it. it's supposed to be walled ...

Within their custodianship, if that makes sense. we didn't, at least to my knowledge, we did not export any records of voter file data that were based on those so yes, we did establish proofs that there was a problem so that, a, we understood what that problem was and b, we could accurately report that up the chain. that did take us some time to figure out. >> but the problem besides the firewall being down, what are you able to establish by going into her voter -- i think that's the confusing part to people here. if you went into her voter files, if you searched them, if you copied informatio...

Voting base doesn't care. they don't care whether donald trump is a conservative or not, what they care about is anger. and essex plohe is exploiting t on the right about the cultural changes in america, politicians rating the game in favor of politicians, so they're not looking at it as a liberal versus conservative, who is venting my way, who is expressing my ang or. there's more that jeb bush is getting. he wants to say it's not a big deal if you do use it, then he tried refining the term to asians, not hispanics. why? because he's trying to keep up with donald trump orthopedic respond so...

Going 80 miles an hour, 24 hours aday. that slows down as you get bigger. amazon wanlts to keep it going. >> the reason it is shocking or resinating or getting across collective consciousness is because amazon is in our homes. we all use it. it's a feel good company. do you think maybe that's why it is kind of making us feel that? >> a big, beloved brand. you may not want to think what it takes to get amazon to your house. even if you don't have as intense a job as someone at amazon. you may not have to work 24 hours seven days a week, but you have to bring your phone home and be accessible. >...