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Chris: limits draw down on political differences on obamacare. one is how to help lower-income people pay for insurance, people who aren't covered by medicaid. there is an idea of refundable tax credits. some conservative people say it's just another name for subjects does. there is also the question about the 11 million people who gain coverage under the expansion medicaid. what happens to them? those are size and issues. >> it's always hard when you pull back on entitlements. when obama came in 2008 he passed obamacare without a single republican vote. now it's such a mess of legislation. yo...

Chris: limits draw down on political differences on obamacare. one is how to help lower-income people pay for insurance, people who aren't covered by medicaid. there is an idea of refundable tax credits. some conservative people say it's just another name for subjects does. there is also the question about the 11 million people who gain coverage under the expansion medicaid. what happens to them? those are size and issues. >> it's always hard when you pull back on entitlements. when obama came in 2008 he passed obamacare without a single republican vote. now it's such a mess of legislation. yo...

The coverage is not the same and they shouldn't have to pay for the same thing. >> is that 20 million number that are covered might be a totally phoney number. it's been done over the course of four years and half of them expanded medicaid which is unaffordable -- unsustainable plan anyway. >> that's the big problem we have right now. we talk about the huge number of gain coverage and it really has to do a lot with medicaid expansion. we focused on medicaid, per capita, that's what we will have to do. >> thank you very much. ainsley: thank you. the first woman to run a winning presidential cam...

Thing and blame for the fact is, obamacare was a lie from the beginning. keep a doctor, keep your plan. it is time for republicans and democrats to get together and come up with a health care plan that works. well, senator schumer shot back with this. instead of calling names, president-elect should roll up his sleeves and call show us a replacement plan that would cover the 20 million americans that gain coverage. >> tucker: well, former mexico governor bill richardson, going just now. thank you for coming on. >> thank you, tucker. congratulations on your new show. >> tucker: thank you very m...

Thing and blame for the fact is, obamacare was a lie from the beginning. keep a doctor, keep your plan. it is time for republicans and democrats to get together and come up with a health care plan that works. well, senator schumer shot back with this. instead of calling names, president-elect should roll up his sleeves and call show us a replacement plan that would cover the 20 million americans that gain coverage. >> tucker: well, former mexico governor bill richardson, going just now. thank you for coming on. >> thank you, tucker. congratulations on your new show. >> tucker: thank you very m...