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Said to me when i interviewed them about this we don't intend to insult. that's not our job. we're just poking fun of the absurd and the absurd exists on these fringes and in the extremes of these targets that we attack. that's basically what's happened today. that's been very very damaging of course to many members of the journalistic profession all around because people are worried about what happens next? how does one continue doing your job in this environment that's incredibly difficult to navigate right now. >> to your point a few minutes ago, perhaps it will have a galvanizing effect. t...

Out of there was made for you? >> no option for me. >> i also understand in the context of yours arrest, youed a several encounters when plisz were making you less safe as opposed to more safe. >> when we were in the jail, there was a i police officer who was manning the cell. he kept making remarks as if these aren't the real thuls that we arrested. the real thugs will come on -- when the puerto rican parade comes. we have the latinos come in. those are the real thugs. what hurt me the most is yes, i'm black, i'm african-american and latino. i'm dehumanized, criminalized and insulted. you alr...

But for the time being, the fact he was the adult in the front of the car and told the kids in the back to shut up had an effect. had a real galvanizing effect in congress as few things have done in the republican leadership in recent months. >> don't make me stop the car. and i think we just saw the car stop there. and he said these clowns have humiliated me, made me into one of them. i'm not going to be the mad hatter of their tea party anymore. i'm wondering is this the long-term projected civil war ton the right where what's left of the moderate republican party outnumbered or not takes on...

Opposes it and that 17% this week is going forward with an online campaign, #bornequal asking is this an intelligent way to decide our future head of state? do you predict, could there ever be a time when the republicans win? >> i can't imagine it. i think there are both historical and present contrary reasons for why there is such affection. first, the royal family's conduct during the second world war had a powerful effect on the nation. they stayed in buckingham palace even though london was being bombed relentlessly. and whenever there was a town or an area or suburb of london that was hit...

Often unite the party. john mccain didn't have a united party behind him until he nameded sarah palin. now a lot of opinions she was a disaster and all of that but i won't get into that here. but at the sime he did it, it -- time he did it, it had galvanizing effect on the party and the convention. people forget this. on september 15, that year, when the market meltdown happened after the republicans in my view were finished, mccain-palin ticket was ahead in the polls. so it's an important consideration to get party rallied behind you. other candidates might do that, but santorum could do that...