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Caravan for quite some time. we knew they were coming. >> that's right. >> so we shouldn't be surprised that they're gaming the catch and release system. people talk about what works and what doesn't. what has been done or could still be done in the immediate term to change their incentive and to change the system so they don't game it? >> the reality is, i mean, they're coming through mexico. mexico has allowed them to come through their country knowing that their entire intentions are to come illegally into the united states to game the system. i think mexico needs to take some of the respon...

The president made it clear the government will not shutdown. the most likely se scenario is a short-term band aid-deal until a deal can get reached. >> much of this debate hinges on president trump's promised border wall and how exactly to fund it. just how far the president is prepared to go to get that funding depends on who you ask. and the wall is just one item on the president's jam-packed agenda for this week. ahead of this 100-day deadline, yet with everything the white house has cooking, one key policy item suddenly moved to the back burner. that's healthcare, with a vote not actually...

And chick peace. you did leave the milk. that is one of decisions you regretted, taking milk and not trading it out. i misstated something earlier. you actually have 1800, not 800 stores. 1800 stores nationwide. your company is worth more than $5 billion. we don't often have a ceo on our show that run as company that is worth as much. i'm curious, based on what your experience was over the last week, how would you, what do you think is key to runing a successful food stamp program? because we don't want to leave people that are in need without anything but we also don't want abuses in the syst...

Charges we know of already. >> so far. >> so far. you're the expert. all these rape charges which could go into exponential number. >> thousands. >> even if he tried to game it, if he would say, okay, i'm going to go for capital punishment because i think this thing is still tested in the courts, killing an unborn child at some stage of pregnancy. he'll still have all these other charges. there's no game there for him. >> life plus life plus life. no matter what. i don't think he has much to bargain about. this is a prosecutor trying to make a statement that we all feel, how could this not be ...

Is that true? >> no, it's not true. the actual, you know, progressives to have been upset about welfare reform since bill clinton passed it. i was going to say it's a little shameless for the president, but clinton, you know. >> paul: that's what he does. >> that's what he does. it's all about the-- i mean, it's very kind of bureaucrat particular, but it's about the definition of what the work requirement is and they are proposing to expand it in such a way that it virtually has no meaning. as for that 20% increase in employment, this is the sort of thing that the bureaucracies themselves self...