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A very unique and a very complex issue that we have to deal with and contend with. >> a lot of women in here mess it up. they lie on you, cheat. >> and it's just a game to most of these women. >> a money thing. >> yeah. >> a game. they drag you for money. >> they ain't never been in a woman relationship and i guess i sway them and con them. i guess i have a game talk with me. so when they come in, they want to know about the bull dagging, and i be like, i be thinking, yeah that's one right there. nine times out of ten, they just give me what i want, i don't have to play them. >> because there ...

It's not -- i don't think anybody offing watching is shoc falling off their couches or chairs, that there are political negotiations and strategizing going on on both sides. >> but actually seeing it on television, overhearing it is a different story. >> i know. >> let's move on. all this game talk and finger pointing. is there any way out of this shutdown soon? >> you know, that is the question everybody wants to know. and unfortunately, the news i'm going to deliver is, i don't see or hear any real conversations going on. what's going on in public, this sort of fight to get the upper hand wi...

A very unique and a very complex issue that we have to deal with and contend with. >> a lot of women in here mess it up. lie on you, cheat. >> and it's just a game to most of these women. a money thing. >> yeah. >> a game. they drag you for money. >> they ain't never been in a woman relationship and i guess i sway them and con them. i guess i have a game talk with me. so when they come in, they want to know about the bull dagging, and i be like, i be thinking, yeah, there's one right there. nine times out of ten, they just give me what i want, i don't have to play them. >> because there are pe...

And that is two women together. >> teresa? >> who is it? >> my wife. i have a girlfriend here. i have several girlfriends, just not my special girlfriend. i have two or three girlfriends. this is the bull dagging crew. >> why did you say that? my mama be watching this, girl. she's a christian. >> don't be ashamed. >> forming a relationship in prison is a way for many of the women to survive. >> women like women, men like men, oh, well. >> relationships with female offenders is a very interesting, a very unique and a very complex issue that we have to deal with and contend with. >> a lot of wom...

>> who is it? >> my wife. i have a girlfriend here. i have several girlfriends, just not my special girlfriend. i have two or three girlfriends. this is the bull dagging crew. >> why did you say that? my mama be watching this, girl. she's a christian. >> don't be ashamed. >> forming a relationship in prison is a way for many of the women to survive. >> women like women, men like men, oh, well. >> relationships with female offenders is a very interesting, a very unique and a very complex issue that we have to deal with and contend with. >> a lot of women in here mess it up. lie on you, cheat. >...