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This gang problem, because if you want economic growth you need a secureç environment. >> bret: what he did propose -- that seems another issue, which is seems unworkable. what he says was, is he proposed a mass arrest of 18,000 gangster disciples. when i heard that, i thought what in the world is he thinking? can't have a mass arrest, dragnet, for 18,000 people. >> i think it was misinterpreted. when you read further about what he was talking about, he's really going after the heads, the leadership, which is no different from what we do with drone strikes going after al-qaeda, a radical isl...

This gang problem, because if you want economic growth you need a secureç environment. >> bret: what he did propose -- that seems another issue, which is seems unworkable. what he says was, is he proposed a mass arrest of 18,000 gangster disciples. when i heard that, i thought what in the world is he thinking? can't have a mass arrest, dragnet, for 18,000 people. >> i think it was misinterpreted. when you read further about what he was talking about, he's really going after the heads, the leadership, which is no different from what we do with drone strikes going after al-qaeda, a radical isl...

Gang problem, try to solve this problem of inner city violence there in chicago instea. it comes back to this simple question -- then what is bobby rush'sç solution to the epidemc that we see across the inner city neighborhoods? this is not just about throwing more money at the situation or the problem, which he says we need more job training programs. we really now have to look at the nexus of, this the breakdown of the family, the education system. i mean, how can we improve education in the inner city? the number one issue with the black community is school choice. no one is talking about...

Illinois congressman proposed tackling the city's gang problem with mass arrests, using $30 million in federal funds. >> it's a big project, could involve upwards of 18,000 arrests, i think it's completely within the capability of the united states government to crush a major urban gang. >> that drew the ire of illinois congressman bobby rush who told the "chicago sun-times" that the senator's approach was an upper middle class elitist white boy solution to a problem he knows nothing about. real talk from bobby rush. rush argued that the millions would be better spent on job creation and job t...

Motions and tensions running high. barbara bennett, ceo of chicago public schools and karen lewis, president of the chicago teachers union. nice to have you, both. barbara, there were other options, you didn't have to choose the option of closing the school. why close the school? >> actually, for too many years, so many of our children have been trapped in underutilized and under-resourced schools this is really about providing a quality education for all of the children in chicago, regardless to where they live. so the option is to consolidate schools, to ensure resources are redistricted and...