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Threshold. the president responds by saying we have people coming into the country, trying to come, in these aren't people, these are animals. he's referring -- >> it's not clear he's referring to ms13. >> the sheriff smefl says ms13 member. the president responds with a sentence that says these are animals. talk dag -- >> he should have been clear he was talking about ms13. >> responding to the sheriff, bringing up m1. 13, a focus of the administration and the new york governor. >> we're proving how emotional this debate is. you have people, it's terrifying to think there could be proliferati...

Limited as to what they can do it the border. they cannot apprehend illegal immigrants, they can just help surveying. trump needs to take bolder steps to stop this crisis, that will mean defunding sanctuary cities, building the wall and renegotiating nafta perhaps, putting economic pressure on mexico to stop this flow of immigrants that are border which is bringing in crimes and gang problems, it is a good first step. heather: what do you think? >> i was just in texas and draw your attention to my brand-new cowboy hat. there is no process on the southern border, a 13 year low

Tattoos or other signs on somebody under 18 that they are likely a member of a criminal gang, are they permitted to detain them or are they required to treat them the same way they would every other minor child and place them with a sponsor ultimately and only to have them never show back up for their court hearing in the future? are criminal gang members who happen to be minors treated any differently? >> unfortunately no. we have to treat them the same. we do provide the information to hhs when we have it and once we turn them over to hhs. no, sir, it is a problem. we need to look at removea...

Rule saying sanctuary cities shall cooperate with immigration agents to get to public safety grants. this is an issue that has been rolling around for months. it is something that president trump made a foundation speech on the presidential trail, this is a example of california pushing back hard? or because of donald trump is the president, or where we headed there anyway? >> christopher: i think we were headed here and wait they have led the charge on the radical agenda. and you can see it in the illegal population of california and the gang problems they have in the south. will be interesti...

Lot of illegals. >> i talked with our police chief and former police chief numerous times, oakland like many cities has gang problems most of those gang problems are not regarding undocumented residents, everybody knows that. if there are specific examples and exceptions were a portion of a gang somewhere or an individual who is committing a violent crime is convicted of that crime happens to be undocumented they should be dealt with harshly just like anybody else. most people who are undocumented are not committing crimes other than jaywalking. let's not exaggerate the reality of the situatio...