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Sell them for sex. i briefed the president on a few examples of ms-13's brutality. these include a 15-year-old gaitherford maryland, girl named demarrus rivas who was stabbed 13 times with knives and a wooden stake. the girl's killers filmed her murder so they could show gang leaders back in el salvador what they had done. her body was savagely dumped next to railroad tracks under the same road, the beltway, that many of us take to work every day. i briefed the president about the ms-13 members who murdered a fellow gang member they believed to be a snitch and who murdered a recruit for violat...

To follow the gang rules. >> tucker: what do your tattoos mean? >> where i come from, it's a pride thing.e a peacock, like you're proud of yourself as a man. the m and s. those letters, because within the ms-13 gang system as time passed, where i came from, you have to earn those. and you earn it by killing people. by taking actions, like beheadings. a lot of things. >> tucker: how did ms-13 make money? >> by terrorizing, extortion and drug dealing. >> tucker: did you make money? >> no.

Because they want to. a lot of these guys still want to be gangsters. >> many of these inmates come to sny because they violated gang rules and now need protection from gang retaliation. >> the easiest way to describe it is that even though you walked away from the gang, it doesn't change your gang mental state because what happens is that you've already been trained by the gang. so it's easy, again, to reestablish yourself. >> it's a lot of them, they go into sny, they see these older inmates, weaker inmates and they band together again. whether as a formal gang, or four or five bigger guys t...

Yard, or sny. >> it is supposed to be gang free. a lot of guys go into sny not because they want to. a lot of these guys still want to be gangsters. >> many of these inmates come to sny because they violated gang rules and now need protection from gang retaliation. >> the easiest way to describe it is that even though you walked away from the gang, it doesn't change your gang mental state because what happens is that you've already been trained by the gang. so it's easy, again, to reestablish yourself. >> it's a lot of them, they go into sny, they see these older inmates, weaker inmates and th...

A lot of these guys still want to be gangsters. >> many of these inmates come to sny because they violated gang rules and now need protection from gang retaliation. >> the easiest way to describe it is that even though you walked away from the gang, it doesn't change your gang mental state because what happens is that you've already been trained by the gang. so it's easy, again, to reestablish yourself. >> it's a lot of them, they go into sny, they see these older inmates, weaker inmates and they band together again. whether as a formal gang, or four or five bigger guys that want to pressure o...