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Need libraries. we have health centers, other people have other health facilities. so, these are all bad choices. tough choices and but that's what we were ee lethsed to do is make the tough choices and stand up and explain them to the public. >> you fall back on core public safety issues and quality of life services begin to suffer very quickly. >> mayor bell, this is interesting, what mayor nutter said, you wish when people make suggestions, you say i wish i'd thought of that. you could cut pay, lay people off, close some services that mayor parker is talking about. or you can make sure that...

All of this, you take these liberal areas like california that are already writing big budgets statewide, put the squeeze on them, we do have to wait until the end of the federal year to get to the rest of the money, september 30th, but after september 30th and the timeline, these cities are going to be in a lot of trouble with their budget, and they won't be fixing potholes, they want to be fixing things, they won't be providing garbage services, this is where they begin to take money away from the people and services away from the people, get on board. >> harris: this very conversation shows...