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Bringing in illegal immigrants and taxing them and good for the work forges, the legal pot thing is great for labor, it's jobs that are not in the mafia and it's farmers and-- >> oh, toby were here, but his brother is, gary b, respond to that. >> well, now, i'm going to go back to what john said. they will do things incidentally benefit the economy and labor, but it's really at the behest of, you know, the top executives. and these executives are very well paid and richard trumka head of the afl-cio makes times as much as the average worker. they want to consolidate their base and coercing peo...

Know, the employer is-- the quote that's wrong from the president there in that reelection thing is, it's not your health insurance, you don't have health insurance, your company takes the health insurance plans for the employees and not yours to keep or take. if they want it kick you off because there are cheaper government plans, it exists because of the tax loophole and companies can buy you insurance and not have to pay tax on it as a salary. so, i don't think it's bad. in fact, it's one of the good effects of the affordable health care act and many others aren't as good so i think it will...

Gynecologist or specialist or something, you've got to wait six weeks and that's what will eventually happen. >> brenda: john. >> to gary's point perfectly, very quietly last week, post-election, the government announced that medicare had cut their subsidy of reimbursement for 4 million diabetic seniors where they reduced the reimbursement by 66% and they reduced the amount of companies that are allowed to supply these supplies from over a thousand to 15. so the government created a quasi monopoly, an artifically low price and seems like they're cutting the costs to help pay for the stuff in o...

And that's, that's at the same time that unions have gone down to indeed, single digits. when you have unions, you have higher pay. when you have higher pay, you have more consumer confidence. people spending money that's good for the economy. >> well, john, union membership plunges when it's voluntary, we've seen that. >> yeah,he unions were set up for the safety and security of the worker to get him some safe work conditions to look out for them. and now we have the unions out this doing anything they can to get more members in and i think that gary was nice and politically correct saying it...

That will be the super premium gold-plated cadillac stuff available. >> steve, is that the right way to treat health care? >> first, it works the same way here now as the so-called, what you just-- gary b, what you just referred to as an underground black market, which is not a black market, it's free. >> these countries that everybody is trashing here, their health care systems cost half of much of gdp as our health care system does and they have better-- >> well. >> they have better results. and that's just straight up statistical analysis, and they have better results. why is that? i'm not-...