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The whole deal is to keep the economy humming. so if we're going to get rid of some of the roles, let's get rid of the roles power worker too. dagen: jeff, let me suggest. >> i would like to say everyone argues that this is better for the economy but the statistics don't bear it out. workers and right to work states earn 12% less than those in other states. median household income. 13% less. they invest 32 less in education. poverty is higher. lower rates of health insurance. i could go on, but it's probably annoying people. dagen: gary b, i think you might want to counter that. >> well, adjus...

Choice to join the union. just not making it mandatory. who wouldn't want that? if unions are so great, people would be volunteering to join them. but they're not. that's why union membership has been declining for the last 40 years. dagen: gary b, imagine that. making a decision about your own life and not being forced into it by some state law. what's. >> what's the fun in that? dagen: thank you. thanks so much, guys. ladies. after a winter storm blankets the northeast, how all of that white will have you see green, no matter where you live. knowing where you stand. it's never been easier. e...

Dagen: gary b, a message to you. iran has violated the nuclear agreement which is potentially used in the making of nuclear weapons. missile firings. the obama administration did nothing. finally, it leaves someone talking tough. >> exactly. look, dagen, i don't know if anyone here on this panel has ever faced bullies. but how you face bullies -- and iran is a bully -- it's not so much do sanctions work. it's when the bully throws the first punch, you have to throw a punch back and not let them push you around and that's what iran is doing whether they can get to a loophole or not on these bal...

Think he's doing it here. dagen: john, what do you say? >> i agree with gary b about the fact that we need to do something with iran. the problem is the un security resolution of 2015 that was signed in vena is a big ambiguous. so they're trying to get around a loophole saying they haven't violated the treaty. when you're putting sanctions on these guys, they have not done anything to violate the nuclear agreement, so you can't go after them over that, you go after missile supply which typically don't deal with the united states anyway. so these sanctions are pretty much meaningless. unfortuna...

>> there's no question that reducing these regulations and the burden on these countries can grow the industry and cut costs for all of us. and it's something trump is looking at across the board. he promised the pharmaceutical industry he was going to do it this way. he talked about putting a drug to market has gone up ten times in ten years. and he said i promise i'm going to give you relief so that you can reduce costs and do better for your customers, and it's the same thing here. dagen: gary b, lower energy bills. >> look, i appreciate the gesture that trump's doing, but it's not coming b...