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Deeply. they used to say, no, it is not going to increase the deficit. today mnuchin said not only to pay for the tax cut, a couple of trillion dollars in tax cut, but we are going to end up with a revenue positive outcome. raising another trillion dollars and almost as if they're saying, hmm, you know, we told them that it's not going to cut taxes on the rich and, nlg, that isn't really working. we told them it's deficit neutral. let's see what else we have in our back pocket here. and so, they're just kind of shuffling through the deck to try to sell this thing. i think you and joy are exact...

Deeply. they used to say, no, it is not going to increase the deficit. today mnuchin said not only to pay for the tax cut, a couple of trillion dollars in tax cut, but we are going to end up with a revenue positive outcome. raising another trillion dollars and almost as if they're saying, hmm, you know, we told them that it's not going to cut taxes on the rich and, nlg, that isn't really working. we told them it's deficit neutral. let's see what else we have in our back pocket here. and so, they're just kind of shuffling through the deck to try to sell this thing. i think you and joy are exact...