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They may have cash and big businesses do, too, but they're not using it to invest and hire. >> i beg to differ with jonas, it could be worse, not the greatest strategy and economic plan. we need-- >> you don't-- you go into business to hire people. let's not pooh-pooh the cash, that's why you go into people to hire people, that's not your goal. you want to make a the lot of money. >> brenda: isn't that how you grow? >> profits are high. >> and wages can grow and can help grow profits and-- >> and the job creating in the '90s, that was bad, that was it? i don't follow that. >> and to have a goo...

Tell tales, whatever, but those are the numbers, so for anyone to say i'll take the opposite side of what susan says, we're better off, has me straching my head. >> let's talk at numbers, such as the stocks and bonds numbers, they're clearly saying things aren't that bad. >> yeah, maybe only 10% of the people actually own stocks. the other 90% don't better. look it, sort of the let's beat the heck out of the number and go back to the real numbers. gary's right, that the real number that count is the unemployment rate and the underemployment rate. and that is the optimism goal and people are st...

>> all right. welcome back, thank you so much for watching. i thought we were already in the after the show show. >> no, so clean it clean. go to fox and friends.com and we're going to talk a lot about-- >> carry clayton off rudy style, off the field. >> clayton, clayton! >> thank you. >> brenda: forget the balloons and confetti dropping because job growth is still stalling and our debt keeps soaring. president obama and governor romney both saying they can fix it, but whose plan will actually do it? hi, everyone, i'm brenda buttner, this is bulls and bears. here they are, the bulls and bears ...

Said corporations are people. no, governor romney, corporations are not people. people have hearts. they have kids. they get jobs. they get sick. they die. they dance. they live. they love. and they die. and in fact-- >> okay, gary, we heard it. that's the democratic senate candidate in massachusetts, right, corporations are not people? >> absolutely not, brenda. this is the most anti-business screed that has come out of the the left. you can basically put the chyron the name things on the screen, under elizabeth warren and put business is evil. she talked about what people are. what do you th...

>> you did a wonderful jobs and thanks to the ladies, just off camera, do we have a shot? >> thanks for the folks at hooters for coming by today. tomorrow's national wing day. >> clayton: yeah, go there and get great free wings at hooters location, join us on the after the show show. >> see you tomorrow. >> the economy slowing, consumers bumming. more u.s. companies warning and d.c. doing nothing. will the economy be stuck in uncertainty also lawmakers agree to prevent a massive tax hike? hi, i'm brenda buttner, this is bulls and bears. >> let's get to it. here they are the bulls and bears thi...