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Up. but it's interesting trump is trying to use nancy pelosi as an attack on the democrats in the midterms, because i've talked to people in nancy pelosi's office who have actually seen those attacks kind of getting -- it's not working as much. her numbers aren't bringing down other democrats as much. so she's not this cudgel that she used to be to harm other democrats running in house seats. so it was interesting to see him bring her up again like that. but lock her up now, it's just something that you say at a trump rally. >> eli, you think the women in the audience liked that gender aspect ...

Granny. is this a year and a half of psycho analyzing the gender aspect? >> probably. but request do we have to pay attention to that? everyone has to write about something. she is approaching the issue of gender differently. no doubt. i don't think she is overexcepting. she a grandmother now. back then she didn't make being 9 first woman president a big deal now it is absolutely different. >> you write in your column if you are against hillary clinton according to your feedback you are detected as self loathing antiwoman traitor and a woman posted a x saying you should trade your ovaries fort...

And campaigned as a masculine woman, now a sweet, docile granny. are we in for a year and a half of psychoanalyzing the gender aspect of her candidacy? >> probably. but you know what, why do we have to pay attention to that? everybody has to write about something. she is approaching the issue of gender differently. there's no doubt about that. i don't think she's overcompensating. she is a grandmother now. back then, she didn't make being the first woman president a big deal. now it's absolutely implicit. >> and rather lienkathleen, you wrote, if you're against hillary, you're depicted as a se...

Outside money out. and so it was a bad tactical mistake for me. and i do regret it because it allowed them to turn that on me. i don't think that was really, for people that knew me i look at that now, it doesn't -- >> it made you look too confrontational, too aggressive. >> too aggressive and particularly not chivalrous. and i think it was almost as if they were very good in the operatives in terms of turning this and trying to communicate to every woman who had ever had some ex-husband put a credit card statement in front of them and said you know what's this charge here? >> so there was a g...

>> madam secretary, you let the consulate become a death trap. and that's national security malpractice. you've said you take responsibility. what does responsibility mean, madam secretary? you're still in your job. >> let me start with joy here. you are a woman. i think there is a sex aspect, a gender aspect. they treated her like they were reproaching her. like it was their job to reproach her. one guy said she's leaving her job because she's been basically fired. he says i think that ultimately that with your leaving, you accept the culpability. everybody knows that secretary clinton has de...