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I feel like we know this with you know every time we get on a plane and how much money goes into protecting ourselves from flying safely bad people are still doing bad things. the same with conservation. i think you can set up good systems and those systems are meant to keep these animals safe, but if people are going to do things as nefarious as you know what this dentist did, it would be pretty tough to stop them. >> talk to me about how losing this lion this beautiful creature affects the entire pride. not only emotionally for their entire family in the pride, but also genetically. >> yeah ...

Specifically because of trophy hunting. so killing cecil has done a lot of things as you say, it's hurt a lot of people around the world, but it's also weakened the family structure that he was protecting and it's weakened the gene pool that he was living amongst. >> can you talk to me about this trophy hunting and the allure of it? >> yeah i would love to say that i understand it. i don't. absolutely there is some debate for the type of hunting where, you know we here in north america, our deer populations are growing out of control because we've, you know, done bad work on the populations of...

Do as, you know, such an important figure, not only for a study as oxford's been studying, but what does the death of cecil do in terms of genetically to the future of that pride now being gone? >> the death of cecil has a lot of impact. and as you say, one animal dying, but it's also trophy hunting in general takes out the biggest and the strongest and the most beautiful. so basically what that means is by all of these cubs dying and by cecil dying, it's weakened the gene pool. systematically, these hunters are pulling out the biggest and the strongest, which means the weaker lions would not ...

On information in their dna. it's rooted in the fact that all humans are descended from a common gene pool. >> so, instead of measuring the pigmentation genes that control pigmentation of the skin, we can make an indirect inference about your skin shade through a very precise knowledge of your ancestral background. >> so the baton rouge police gave dr. frudakis the go-ahead. the results made forensic history and changed the course of the investigation.

World from johnell eat. he joins us on the set. and congratulations on the book. and explain why is it the american mafia fell apart. i remember a time where they seemed to be everywhere and yet invisible and super powerful and yet they crumbled right before our eyes. >> a couple of reasons, the lawmaker and the best and the brightest in the italian community is the doctors and the lawyers and the gangsters are scraping the bottom of the gene pool. it is not like any other -- >> can you say something like that publicly and not be afraid of getting whacked or is that how bad the mafia is. >> i'...