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Today. those are things that he knows rally the base. >> we've got to take care of another quick break. continue the conversation in a moment. we'll talk what is going on with chief strategist steve bannon. are his days numbered in the white house? that's next. but they're different. it's nice to remove artificial ingredients. kind never had to. we choose real ingredients like almonds, peanuts and a drizzle of dark chocolate. give kind a try. ♪ hey ron! they're finally taking down that schwab billboard. oh, not so fast, carl. ♪ oh no. schwab, again? index investing for that low? that's thr...

Fired -- had archibald cox fired. but certainly i would say it was second. it was second. >> we heard from the white house over the weekend, you know, from unnamed people in the white house that he didn't want to dignify these groups by mentioning their names. but he held an entire press conference about ms-13. i've done tons of stories on gangs. and every gang cop will tell you the same thing when you're doing a story. they say please don't mention the name of the gang, because it just gives them credibility. it just raises them to a higher platform. he had no problem doing that on ms-13. to ...

Working in the white house in that position of power and influence like that. ryan and i were talking about the over or under whether bannon was going to stay owner. i think the difference this time is that the pressure is coming from other places. rupert murdoch it was reported told trump bannon should go. there's this battle between him and macmaster and what's beginning on wtn s a. trump has come out and backed him on the national security council. he's shown support for macmaster not necessarily bannon. so bannon now, he's losing allies in the warehouse. reince priebus isn't there anymore,...

Anything on racial issues. >> i think bannon is leaving, this whole climate's kind of creating an exit for him and he gave himself a timetable but which he would leave so i think that will fit in there. i think one of the fears donald trump have, and rightly so, when you have someone on your team that is a wild card or maverick like bannon, what do they do when they're on the outside and how badly do they burn you when they're not under your every single day. i have to go back to this, i don't care if he's ana zee or white nationalist i put them in the same category together. steve bannon is a...

Selfish motivation -- >> what the president's -- remarks reflection on steve bannon? >> a lot. >> he wouldn't there. megan reported earlier that in general bannon has warned the president about speaking out too much against foreign rights group who are a small part of his support. >> everyone should be raeld joshua green's terrific book, definitely's bargain which is about steve bannon and his role in the trump campaign. what you see is how much bannon was the architect of using immigration, using these undeis of resentment. and how important he has been to creating the base that donald trump ...