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Meddling in donald trump's campaign. a normal candidate, a normal president, would be happy for the assistance. this president has something to hide so he's not happy. >> all right, we're going to hit pause. we'll hit pause. thank you both very much. and next, michael cohen's legal troubles mounting tonight. the rnc said he's still under criminal investigation. and james clapper says the russians not only meddled in the election but put trump over the top. now that is new. it is a huge thing to say. does he have evidence? well, general clapper will be my guest tonight. (vo) what if this didn't...

>> i've known jim clapper for years. i'm astounded how bad he looks and how dishonest and incompetent he looks. >> he was the director of national intelligence, what do you think he was in charge of doing? he was in charge of spying. >> your response? >> well, i sure hope i get to go to the assisted living wing with an orange suit i guess. i don't know what -- >> what do you make when they suggest you've committed a crime. >> i take umbrage with that. i didn't commit a crime. i was trying to explain my understanding of what this informant was doing. and i wasn't spying on the campaign. i take ...

Ground, you could see they start with the small cracks and then they get so big, it looks like you could fit a small car inside. some of those creeping closer to homes and in some places they are filling up with lava. one resident was shooting the lava with her phone just -- just behind her one acre lot which is creeping down the road. this is what they're dealing with inside of there and it is eerily quiet. everything is a sickly yellow brown around the -- all of the vegetation that you would a -- associate of hawaii being the green and everything is a weird yellow brown and so it is a precar...

We are back and continuing the conversation with my political panel. so you remarked that general clapper seems -- >> heavy. >> tired and -- >> very heavy. >> this is all weighing on him. >> it is. and it issal right to disagree on issues but when you start calling people names and wearing orange suits and all of that, that is heavy and for a man who dedicated his life to this country, agree or disagree on his stances, but to allow those -- that narrative at him and he just seemed very heavy in that interview in terms of really trying to explain what he was trying to say and all of the accusat...

Clapper, who has the problem of lying a lot, used the word "spy" when describing illegal activities. let us take a second and general clapper has served this country for nearly six decades as a marine and then in the air force rising to the rank of a three star lieutenant general and served as director of the defense intelligence agency from 1991 to 95 and director of national intelligence in 2010 which he oversaw 16 different agencies. joining me now is retired general james clapper and he is out with a new book titled "facts and fears" hard truths from a life and intelligence. general clappe...