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For that? there's some structure, especially now under a just retired four-star general around things like staff meetings and oval office flow. when the president tweets out this worthless e-mail chain, a myth, a hoax, i think it's fair to ask the question, is there some structure around this guy? >> well, there may be a better or tighter structure around him now with john kelly as chief of staff than there was with reince priebus. the reporting i have done tells me there is more of a closed door policy to the office. aides can't just mill about and slip things under the president's desk, but ...

Well, president trump responded to the barcelona terror attack via twitter yesterday morning. the united states condemns the terror attacks in barcelona and will do whatever necessary to help and whereby be tough and strong. we love you. then shortly he tweeted study what general per shing of the united states did to terrorists when caught. there was no more radical islamic terror for 35 years." this is not the first time he has promoted this debunked story. >> early this last century general pershing -- did you ever hear rough guy? they had a terrorism, and there's a whole thing with swine an...

And for 25 years, there wasn't a problem. >> amy, three things. number one historians will tell you that never happened. so the president, as president, over the last 24 hours spreading what appears to be a lie. number 2, as president, even if it did happen, he'd be endorsing war crimes. number 3, there's no proof that general pershing's actions were effective, whatever they were. all that aside, what this shows is the president acting in a way -- again, we talk about moral authority right here. people look to the president especially in times of terror attacks for how they respond. what does ...

He was just trying to make excuses for that saturday comment which fell so short of what he needed to do. he didn't need the facts before he spoke about his wires being tapped. he hasn't needed the facts before half the things he said. he's one of the most fact impervious presidents we've seen. that was just a line. >> a short time later he tweeted. general pershing did to the united states when caught. there was no more islamic terrorism for 25 years. he was describing this incident that he used bullets dipped in pig's blood. zero evidence that pershing ever did that. why do that? >> he's try...

Number one, general pershing was never in a war with islamic terrorism. he was in a war in the philippines where some of the people he was fighting against were muslim. most soldiers in every 20th century war have been members of a religion. most of the wars that they fought in had nothing to do with their religions. here is donald trump in the full grip of his pathology, during the presidential campaign, telling his big lie about general pershing. the lie that he knows is a lie but that his pathology demands that he tell. now, as you watch him, as you watch him telling this lie during the cam...