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Sam seder, and co-host of the ring of fire radio show, and josh -- you're not the host of the online -- you work at emily's list. >> i do. >> i was like, oh, my god, everyone! so i want to bring up two pieces of information here. because i think this is the big question, right? this is the big question about progressive electoral politics, the kind of trajectory that we're on, whether we're entering some era in which we can really move the center of american debate to the left, whether we can move policy in a progressive direction, or whether we're going to be locked in this kind of generation...

Weren't related. it sends two messages. you can come after us and try to kill us, but we are not going to sit here and we are not going to take it. this is a war, we are going to come you have a, we'll find you wherever you are and we'll get. this is part of the mess and. i hope it's -- this is part of the message. jane: i know you think pakistan is key to this war. >> it is the key to the war. you want the people caught between the too and you want to smash them. the pakistanis have done a great job the past few months to go in and clean up some of these areas. obviously the frontier areas ar...

Ron, do you agree with leon panetta and if so, what's work so well? >> i think the idea is to keep these guys off balance. i think a thatta is right. d i think panetta is right. you have to pursue them and pursue them. it's a loose organization. it is clustered together. i'm more than happy to pay for more predators to fire missiles at them. it's a way of keeping them on edge. killing off the high-level people. that's the way you want it. the more as far as i'm concerned, the merrier. jane: it's surprising to some he made the comments on the heels of the horrendous attacks on the cia operative...

Maybe as an american public we say it should move a little bit this way, we need more. you get these homegrown bombers. i don't think they are lone wolves. they are all interconnected somehow on the internet. then they have the capacity to raise money. i know we are degrading isis's abilities but then you have a bigger problem, a generational war. a war of ideas. our ideas have to be a better. ideas our ideas can't be -- i tt trump was very realistic. he said they are evil losers. make no mistake, they are losers. we will have more of them. we have to understand he is very clear eyed about the...

They have the same goals. would just see more. the obama folks say we need to do something that's going to deal with the ideology, that's so poisonous, but the fact is they're on the ground. >> they don't have battle fatigue, what about mission creep? they are very decidedly focused in their purpose of what they would like to achieve. >> they're crazed. >> they're focused and we're like, let's see, we're going to get back to the red line today. maybe not tomorrow. >> quinn points out 1300 years they've been fighting this battle in the middle east. >> if you go back to 9/11, begin what is presi...