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Why do you want a digital twin? because what you can do now is want to have this physics based digital twin. you can optimize it. take a factory — before we build it, we build its twin. we optimize the building, the workflow, the processes, even the manual work, and we optimize it. we simulate it and once we like it, when we say it's perfect, then we start building it. that saves time. it saves us time more than a year in building it. compared to other factories, productivity is up 200%, 20% higher space productivity 20% lower energy cost. so when you throw into the mix generative ai, i mean...

Have matured to a state where the sec is at a point where they are improving the ability for investors to have tools, other tools, other than just investing at a spot. they can investing at a spot. they can invest in an etf that is very liquid that allows them to invest in the theme of bitcoin without actually owning bitcoin. i think that is an important development for the market. , ., ., important development for the market. ,., ., ., , market. the important word is artificial intelligence _ market. the important word is artificial intelligence and - artificial intelligence and generative ai...

Isn't that going to be a form of immortality? well, it is certainly something that some people believe is a form of immortality, and is already on offer. i mean, there are already companies promising something like this, whether as a way of managing grief — so if it's a loved one that dies — or as a route to immortality when thinking about your own prospects. but i don't think this is a route to immortality. you know, it's notjust a means of maintaining sort of memories, it's not like keeping photos on your phone. this can be generative. this can be the essence of you, which generates new ...

Thinking about your own prospects. but i don't think this is a route to immortality. you know, it's notjust a means of maintaining sort of memories, it's not like keeping photos on your phone. this can be generative. this can be the essence of you, which generates new thoughts, new conversations, which keeps you, in a sense, alive. now, your institute works on technology in the future and humanity. is that not something that actually is a realistic possibility? yes, it's a great question, and we're in deeply philosophical territory when thinking about — is that really you? i don't think it i...

Ourselves, that is what happens in ourselves, download the memories, the thoughts, the emotions, the material that makes us us. onto a computer, to digitise it, to turn ourselves into digital cells which can be kept in a metal box forever. isn't that going to be a form of immortality? well, it is... certainly something that people believe is a form of immortality and is already on offer. there are already on offer. there are already promises like this, whether as a way of managing grief, so if it is a loved one that dies, or as a route to immortality when thinking about your own prospects. but...