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He advises the president on spiritual matters. here in the studio father gerald murray roman catholic priest and we will give with you, father. >> you know, congressman mcdermott trying to convince people by saying jesus would feed the poor. which he would. we all know that. >> right. >> we impose a system that hurts one group to help another group? >> not at all. in fact, to say that big government was the goal of jesus' preaching and miracles would be absurd. i think that comparison food stamps and the feeding of the 5,000 is out of order. christ came to inspire us to follow him, his teachin...

Glorifying the past. >> megyn: speak to that bernard, and that the religious right wants the blacks to go to the back of bus. >> and the restrictions on the voting, for example, the modern day equivalent-- >> want to get him back in, go ahead, david. >> this can't be unanswered, name me those things you recited on the religious right. >> i didn't. >> yes, you throw out this false ekwif essentially and broad statements which broad-- equivalency, and you can't name it and-- >> let me take it down a notch and ask you, father murray. are we at the point now where you, i mean, i assume you are the ...

Of visited by presidents of both parties for many, many years. >> a reaction there from both the family research council and the white house in just the last hour or so, after an easter sunday sermon goes political with president obama and his family in attendance. and the pastor was delivering his sermon at st. john's episcopal church at the white house when he said in part, quote, it drives me crazy when the captains of the religious right are always calling people back, for blacks to be back in the the back of the bus, for women to be in the kitchen. for gays to be in the closet and for imm...

Should head to one of those umbrellas if they want to be served. we're not quite sure how long the communion will last. but everybody will be served. and everybody who wants to partake of the meal can. >> father murray, father gerald murray from holy family church in new york with us this morning as well. the body of christ, the bread of heaven and catholics believe that there's a transformation that happens here. >> yes. it's called transsubstantiation where the substance of the bread and wine no longer are present once the pope says this is my body, this is my blood, we believe this to be th...

We must serve the poor, the weak, the hungry, the thirsty. this pope said to be a man of the people who in the days since he was elected pope has among other things paid for his own breakfast, checked out of his own hotel. this morning before the inauguration he was in an unfamiliar to us pope mobile an open jeep out of which he walked and knelt and kissed the sick and the injured. laid hands upon a man in a wheelchair and kissed young children reminding us all that the church is of the people and for the people. and the people for it. and the church and the pope asking us at the end of his ho...