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Of interrogation techniques to use than the cia interrogator. so america is less safe, in your view, as a result? it is less safe as... notjust this, but a lot of things have happened in the last eight years. but, you know, one person who has been tortured is the republican senator, john mccain... yes. ..the vietnam war veteran. and he wrote in the washington post in 2011, "i know from personal experience that the abuse of prisoners sometimes produces good intelligence, but often produces bad intelligence, because, undertorture, a person will say anything he thinks his captors want to hear. so...

Coercion sometimes doesn't yield the right results, they just say something to stop the torture. if you ask questions that way, that's true. if you ask leading questions, and you tell the person or lead the person to believe that the only way they're going to stop that is to tell you what you want to hear, then you do get that kind of information, you do get misinformation. but that's not how it was done. let me be clear with you. what happened is, when the eits were used, we would say to the person, we want information to stop operations. we know you don't have all of it, but you have some of...