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He has a bottom line that he has to meet. he can't continue to put hardship on his people. there is a balance. all of us have come to the executive roles understand that. and we have an awful lot of good legislators with a lot on experience. now we got to use this for the betterment of our country. piers, we just cannot continue what you've just seen. this was the ugliest show on earth today that you saw unravel. the last week or two. that should never repeat it self-and the american political spectrum. >> a breath of fresh air talking to you, a voice of reason in a sea of insanity. thank you ...

Gingrich, the host of cnn's host fire. i want to read that quote back, when you jump into a pig pen, everyone comes out with a little stink on them. we all lost. is that your take on the whole thing? >> oh, sure. look, i don't think anybody is a big winner out of this. the house republicans lost the fight they were in the middle of. the senate proved that it could only act at the last possible second. the president proved that he was incapable of bringing people together and getting anything done without a crisis. i don't think anybody comes out of this stronger or better of healthier and i do...