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Pennsylvania '18 is a special election to replace tim murphy who departed after a complicated sexual misconduct claims. what is your sense, it seems like this is really in play, and this is -- >> i think it is. i think you're seeing folks on the ground there gin up in a way they wouldn't otherwise given the nature of the district. it's a strong leaning or very strong republican district. and the fact of the matter is, the parties on both sides are now going to put a lot of boots on the ground, a lot of money into the race, because it is a pick-up opportunity for the dems. but more importantly ...

Between the fbi democrats and russia. so, obviously, the significance of the fact that fusion gps was originally hired by conservative website is relevant in terms of what the president is trying create here as an image. >> absolutely is. i think we have to distinguish between the legal questions here and the political questions here. the legal question really is what's in the dossier true or not true. i agree absolutely with that. but the political question is who funded it. the president thought he had a handle on this. he thought he had a way in to go after hillary clinton x to go , to go a...

Lindsey graham. why -- why take on this battle? >> republicans have been saying this, republicans in congress have been saying this to the president since he started in his job as president, even as a candidate. the tweets need to stop. you need to -- if you are going to push an agenda forward, it's really hard to do. it's even harder to do when you get distracted and you get washington distracted by this. there is something really important happening in washington right now, healthcare bill, it's kind of a big deal. that's what the white house should be discussing right now, that's the what p...

Disagreement, the firefox ceo, if you dare gin up or something you believe in, your entire life will be destroyed. a leftist tactic, taking a different form. >> bill: last question, real fast. you believe that nordstrom's and sears and the other stores have caved in? you believe they have caved in because of this far left web site? that's if you believe, katie? >> i don't know if it is caving in, i think they are seeing a result of this boycott -- i guess, they would be caving in. they are responding to preventing that type of disruption. >> bill: there are just as many people who like preside...

Not a hyper-partisan point of view. that is not education. it is propaganda. is it not? >> listen, bill, in a classroom, i would agree with you. >> bill: you use the word educated -- >> educating somebody or giving information on twitter with a hashtag or a web site, that is not always going to be fair and balanced, you know that. >> bill: go ahead, katie. it sounds like to me. >> it is one thing for an individual to decide i am not going to spend my hard-earned money on ivanka trump or donald trump products. that is one thing. another aspect for the grab your wallet campaign to go after the s...