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Even though our allies often times will not turn over a terrorist if they think that terrorist could end up in gitmo. even though groups like isis use gitmo in their propaganda. so we're wasting hundreds of millions of dollars to keep fewer than 60 people in a detention facility in cuba. that's not strength. until congress changes course, it will be judged harshly by history, and i will continue to do all that i can to remove this blot on our national honor. [ applause ] number four, we have to fight terrorists in a way that does not create more terrorists. for example, in a dangerous world, t...

These poor people being forced to choose between getting burned alive and jumping to their death. that's what we had in our head. that's what we were worried about and were trying to prevent. >> it's very easy now years later to say, oh, we did so many things wrong in america. so terrible. but given the choice of saving an american life or not, you would have to do what you can. i have to tell you this morally superior intellectual elite that dictates to us what our values should be at a moment of national survival is just hypocritical. >> i know that you went down to git mo and actually obser...

Dictates to us what our values should be at a moment of national survival is just hypocritical. >> i know that you went down to git mo and actually observed some of the trials. do you feel like this is too much of an effort to bend over backwards to protect terrorists? these are terrorists we have at gitmo playing soccer. some of these tactics were very brutal, but do you feel like the pendulum swung too far to the other side? >> it's way too far. could you imagine this happening at nourmburg, for instance. this leftist quite honestly want to bring khalid sheikh mohammed to federal court only ...

Momentum. the virt tu of the phrase is also its weakness. if isis starts advancing more slowly, you can claim you helped stop their momentum. also the same thing if you take steps that have really discreet military meaning, taking territory and cities away from isis and killing its command strubl structure will matter a lot more. the fact we got a lot of vagueness says volumes you about how they are piecing this together. >> thank you very much for joining us. >> thanks, ezra. >> coming up, there is no place like git mo. what's in store for the 149 detainees who still call it home. the alleged...

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