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Secretary who believe that putin's ultimate goal if he goes ahead and takes ukraine would be to move on through belarus and then peel off the baltic states of lithuania and estonia which are also nato nations. in an attack on those nations would be in article five issue. would he do that? >> no, that's the cornerstone of nato as you well know, and an attack on there is an attack on all, and among the announcements made by president biden yesterday were the movements of troops. at 35, the most advanced glider plane in the world, and the infantry of helicopters, which i can tell you from persona...

Maybe over a few weeks we can come to some agreement. >> i ask this question, we have democrats, the line, we heard the new speaker, nancy pelosi, say again to nbc, the wall is a non-starter. no money for the wall. not have a wall. you're saying have a discussion. is there a discussion where you are okay with fencing? is fencing okay but a wall not okay to democrats? is that correct here? >> i think what we should do is let the experts tell us. there are republican senators on border states who don't want a wall. i mean, that's like us sitting here saying we want a model t car or glider plane ...

Everyone would remember him for. all that plus the horrific details of a leaked transcript of the voice recorder showing the passengers had to live through eight minutes of sheer terror before the plane hit the mountain. more on all of that coming up tonight. first, pamela brown in dusseldorf germany, with the latest. >> reporter: a young andreas lubitz laughing behind the controls of a glider plane. now said to have been suicidal before he ever got his commercial pilot's license. >> he had, at that time been in treatment of a psychotherapyist. >> more recently a source tells cnn lubitz went t...

We begin with disturbing new details about the troubled past of the co-pilot of germanwings flight 9525. >> authorities believe andreas lubitz deliberately flew the plane into the french alps. before he received his pilot's license, he received psychiatric treatment for suicidal tendencies. a german tabslide quoting an investigator who says one of the co-pilot's motives was fear that his medical problems would threaten his career. pamela brown has more. >> reporter: a young andreas lubitz laughing behind the controls of a glider plane. now said to have been suicidal before he ever got his comm...

Something that everyone would remember him for. there's all that plus the horrific details from what appears to be a leaked transcript of the airbus voice cockpit reporter that the passengers had to live through eight minutes of shear terror before the plane hit the mountain. all of that coming up tonight. first, pamela brown in dusseldorf germany, with the latest. >> reporter: a young andreas lubitz laughing behind the controls of a glider plane. now said to have been suicidal before he ever got his commercial pilot's license. >> had been at that time in treatment of a psychotherapist. >> r...