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>> you don't look gay. >> i'm still me. >> that said, that show kind of didn't know what it was doing. >> now when i'm finally used to you being a -- >> homosexual. >> -- you're going to get a sex change operation and be a girl? >> i think that the use of stereotypical characters like jody in "soap" is a double-edged sword. it creates a sense of, what is funny about me is that i am deluded and that i should, you know, sort of glom back onto society. it's changing. and now people are more open to trans identities. >> dad? >> hi, girls. >> but even when i start making "transparent" and going, ok...

Didn't know what it was doing. >> now, when i'm, finally, used to you being a -- >> homosexual. >> -- you're going to get a sex change operation and be a girl? >> i think that the use of stereotypical characters, like jody in "soap" is a double-edged sword. it creates a sense of what is funny about me is that i am diluted. and that i should, you know, sort of glom back onto society. it's changing. and now, people are more open to trans identities. >> dad? >> hi, girls. >> but even when i start making transparent and like going, okay, there's trans women and lesbians here. this is never going t...

>> i think that the use of stereotypical characters like jody in "soap" is a double-edged sword. it creates a sense of what is funny about me is that i am diluted and that i should, you know, sort of glom back onto society. it's changing, and now people are more open to trans identities. >> dad? >> hi, girls. >> but even when i start making "transparent" and going, okay, there's trans women and lesbians here, this is never going to fly. >> dad, what are you wearing? >> i was confused. i was confused about what america could handle. >> so i have something to tell you.

>> it is a terrible reason. look at me. i am a person. >> you don't look gay. >> i am still me. >> with that said, that show kind of didn't know it was suing. >> now i am finally used to be -- homosexual. >> you are going to get a sex change and be a girl? >> the use of stereotype like jodi, it creates a sense of what is funny about me is that i am diluted and i should sort of glom back onto society. >> now people are more open to trans identity.

>> i guess if you need a reason, that's a good one. >> burt, it's a terrible reason. i mean look at me. i'm a person. >> i do think that people watching that character thought for the first time about the possibility of gay men being real people. >> you don't look gay. >> i'm still me. >> that said, that show kind of didn't know what it was dog. >> now when i'm finally used to you being a -- >> homosexual. >> you're going to get a sex change operation and be a girl? >> i think that the use of stereotypical characters like jody in "soap" is a double-edged sword. it creates a sense of what is fu...